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roger 02-11-2005 06:52 PM

wow. that was intense.

love Pärt, dig Hanson, though I like Roy Harris and Walter Piston better. and my vocal group does a kick-ass fugue in 11/8 by Villa-Lobos.

:cool:

Yesspaz 02-12-2005 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by hocuspocus
i've always known that Arvo Pärt does something with people, but this is too much (for me).
Heh, You're alright with me HocusPocus!

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Originally posted by roger.lee
Personally I LIKE classically oriented Prog
Ditto. Take prog out of the equation and I'm just against adding it here. But don't infer that I don't like classical. I've got a lot of classical in my collection. Complete organ works of Bach, lots of other Bach. Lots of Stravinsky. The aformentioned Harris. Brahms, Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Beethoven, I've even got the only opera written by Scott Joplin. I've got the complete Messiah, Israel, and lots of toher works by Handel. I've got some Vaungh-Williams, etc. You name it, I've probably got it or at least heard of it. Sibelius, R.Korsakov, ad nauseum.

Rick and Roll 02-12-2005 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Yesspaz
I've got the complete Messiah, Israel, and lots of toher works by Handel. I've got some Vaungh-Williams, etc. You name it, I've probably got it or at least heard of it. Sibelius, R.Korsakov, ad nauseum.
Who is ad nauseum? :cool:

KeithieW 02-13-2005 03:59 AM

Bloody Nora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
That was VERY intense and not a little unpleasant at times.

Hey Ho...........:(

Roger -Dot- Lee 02-13-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Who is ad nauseum? :cool:
He was an obscure composer from the late Rococo era who did such classics as The Thirteenth Suite for Bagpipes and Four Pigeons, and the Twenty Second Suite of Peasant Dances for Alphorn and Hurdy Gurdy.

He tended to be a bit repetitive.

Roger -Dot- Lee, Music Historian for Interesting Values of "Music"

RogorMortis 02-13-2005 12:35 PM

Like KW my hair stood a little bit on end when I read this through especially DOt's salvo.

I've decided to keep my mouth shut on this. - although........

Like SPaz I have plenty of classics from the 20th century including several by Arvö Pärt !!!! But it has to be something special to be played on AM - something one off. Remember prog rock relies on classical roots.

Rick and Roll 02-13-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Roger Lee
He was an obscure composer from the late Rococo era who did such classics as The Thirteenth Suite for Bagpipes and Four Pigeons, and the Twenty Second Suite of Peasant Dances for Alphorn and Hurdy Gurdy.

He tended to be a bit repetitive.

Roger -Dot- Lee, Music Historian for Interesting Values of "Music"

are you sure you're not British, dot?:cool:

MrMagoo 02-14-2005 09:52 AM

Dot's not British...
 
...he just drones a lot - note the refeerence to bagpipes & hurdy-gurdy, both of which rely upon steady, grating tones to deliver their voice :)

Roger -Dot- Lee 02-14-2005 07:18 PM

Re: Dot's not British...
 
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Originally posted by MrMagoo
...he just drones a lot - note the refeerence to bagpipes & hurdy-gurdy, both of which rely upon steady, grating tones to deliver their voice :)
I don't drone. I spew. Voluminously.

Now if you'll excuse me, my (ObThreadTieIn) copy of The Singing Nun just arrived from NetFlix. I've been having problems sleeping lately and I need something good, and since it's not Baseball season yet....

Roger -Dot- Lee, And it's One, Two, Three strikes you're out/licks to the center of a tootsie-pop.

kirk 02-20-2005 01:29 PM

daaamn...missed a good pile on!:D

H.P.- i think i know you from elsewhere..is it yesfans?
at any rate, welcome.

another suggestion spaz- if these older threads that
irritate you so much are in the archives, point the newbies
to them, revive the thread from it's former endpoint.
perhaps the newbies have some perspective/insights that you
haven't covered, eh?

i've said it before, this is generally a tough forum to
break into
, and i have to blame instances like this.

back on thread...roger (no dot)~ i like hanson too...
especially that "umm bop" song...:D sorry

i'm not all that interested in "going for baroque" , but
some bartok, varese, copeland, stravinsky's firebird,
pictures at an exibition might fit...
i see the modern composers as "progressive".

p e a c e
kirk

KeithieW 02-20-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by kirk
i'm not all that interested in "going for baroque" , but
some bartok, varese, copeland, stravinsky's firebird,
pictures at an exibition might fit...
i see the modern composers as "progressive".

p e a c e
kirk

Agree 100% kirk esp. The Varese. His piece L'Ameriques is pretty awesome especially when played in concert.

Another piece you might like to check out is Francis Poulenc's "La Voix Humaine". It's one side of a phone conversation between two lovers. You only get to hear "her" side of it but it's written in such a way that you can hear in your minds ear "his" side too. It's a real tragedy and SO sad. If you hear it I'd love to know what you think.

Not for the Moon though so don't fret chaps :D

Rick and Roll 02-20-2005 03:19 PM

as usual
 
Kirk waits until the dust clears and bops in with his usual brilliant insights.

Aaaaah self-control....advice I need to heed. :)

roger 02-20-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by kirk back on thread...roger (no dot)~ i like hanson too...
especially that "umm bop" song...:D sorry
p e a c e
kirk
quite an erudite group we have here at the Moon...

:D

kirk 02-20-2005 03:51 PM

thanks k.w.- the irony is, (and fitting for this thread)
if not for zappa 's"rediscovering" varese,
few of this generation would know of him.

stockhausen had a tremendous impact on john lennon, influencing "revolution #9", "...walrus".
a bit o' trivia~ one of the sgt. pepper's cover cutouts is stockhausen.

also, arnold shoenberg came to mind after i posted.
i say "go for it" jim! if anyone can sit through "an hour of
polish prog" (apologies to "progressive shores"):D
i don't think a bit of varese will hurt anything.

the early days of college FM was basically prog oriented,
but pieces like tomita's "snowflakes are dancing",
carlos' "switched on bach", the clockwork orange stuff,
tubular bells was in the mix. it worked for me.

p/k/z

Yesspaz 02-20-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kirk
i'm not all that interested in "going for baroque" , but
some bartok, varese, copeland, stravinsky's firebird,
pictures at an exibition might fit...
i see the modern composers as "progressive".

Spaz groans at the very thought of hearing symphonic music interspersed in his prog.

Roger -Dot- Lee 02-20-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by kirk

back on thread...roger (no dot)~ i like hanson too...
especially that "umm bop" song...:D sorry



*shudder* -- just -- *shudder*

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i'm not all that interested in "going for baroque" , but
some bartok, varese, copeland, stravinsky's firebird,
pictures at an exibition might fit...
i see the modern composers as "progressive".

p e a c e
kirk

On the Firebird Suite, especially the Bercuse and Finale, I find that I agree with you. I'm firmly of the belief that, after hearing the finale, if your ears aren't bleeding, it wasn't loud enough (I mean the man uses ƒƒƒƒƒƒ for the final note, for pete's sake!). And we have some Copeland, as well as Pictures AND Night on Bald Mountain on the Moon already.

Roger -Dot- Lee, but HANSON? *shudder* I mean REALLY....

kirk 02-20-2005 05:41 PM

hey, read back... roger said he liked hanson!;)

seriously, my daughter was 13 at the time, thought
"taylor's dreeamy....
i got the musical equivolent of second hand smoke,
only worse. the lungs can heal eventually,
but those lyrics are forever burned into my brain..(sob).

there you go... anyone acts up...tell'em you're gonna
play hanson... that'll be the end of it.:D

y'know dot, you're one of the few people i know
that gets use of that "maestro" font.:p ,
.....let alone can name the final note of the firebird!

you should check out scoring/notation programs like
sibelius, finale. enter a note, it sounds via midi
on a keyboard. they also play w/ those garritan strings
i mentioned previously. i believe there's a free one included.
here's that link- www.garritan.com


k

Roger -Dot- Lee 02-20-2005 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by kirk
hey, read back... roger said he liked hanson!;)



OK...I knew I should have smelled a fish on that one. Ah well...

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seriously, my daughter was 13 at the time, thought
"taylor's dreeamy....



I gotta say I'm lucky on that score. My girls all think that they're disgusting. I'm even starting to corrupt the middle one on such goodies as LTE, Gentle Giant, IQ, etc., and the eldest on some of the mellower stuff. The thing that leaves me speechless is that the youngest seems to like Par Lindh Project. That one left me gobsmacked.

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i got the musical equivolent of second hand smoke,
only worse. the lungs can heal eventually,
but those lyrics are forever burned into my brain..(sob).



You have my sincerest condolences, Kirk. Mine think that Brittney Spears is a bimbo with "all the talent of an empty 2 liter Diet Coke Bottle". Yes, that was the middle daughter talking. She's really coming along.

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there you go... anyone acts up...tell'em you're gonna
play hanson... that'll be the end of it.:D



That won't work. They know that I'll have to listen too.

Although I did turn on Dominique (the same MP3 that I posted earlier) and told them that if they didn't knock off the bickering that I'd not only feed that to the TV whenever it was turned on, but also the PCs and the cell phones as well.

I don't know if they thought I was joking or serious, but whatever it did, it worked, since they bucked up and flew right for the rest of that night.

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y'know dot, you're one of the few people i know
that gets use of that "maestro" font.:p ,



I've been around a while.

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.....let alone can name the final note of the firebird!



Heh. F above the staff. Concert Bb4 (or is it 5?). First chair French Horn, Independence High School, 1982.

Yes, I got to play the horn solo. Yes, I did haunting very well at the time.

Quote:


you should check out scoring/notation programs like
sibelius, finale. enter a note, it sounds via midi
on a keyboard. they also play w/ those garritan strings
i mentioned previously. i believe there's a free one included.
here's that link- www.garritan.com


k

I've checked out Sibelius, but I can't afford it. I'd give body parts to be able to get a copy though (a real one, not one that won't save and has limitations on its usage). It's a wonderful program, even with the limitations I've had. I even managed to hack out a nice little 12 part brass choir ditty that I wasn't completely ashamed of.

Yah, I like Sibelius. I just can't afford it. :(

Roger -Dot- Lee, imagine what Mozart could have done with it!

roger 02-20-2005 07:45 PM

>Sibelius

heh. Mozart didn't need it...

and would that be Stewart CopEland?...

or perhaps Aaron Copland? ;) ;) :D :D

kirk 02-20-2005 11:05 PM

haha- "the gutenberg press ? ...
the monks didn't need it..."

re: cop/e/land- sorry...typo. a copy of "what to listen for in music"
has a permanent place in the master bath....
meaning of course... "the toilet lid".:D

pees ;)

kirk


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