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Concept Album "Show?"
There are many concept albums and one tune albums on the Moon which are ripped into pieces. For the purpose of not overrequesting these and not overboring the listeners this is good. But there are so excellent pieces which "have to be listened" as a complete at least once. Some examples:
Soft Machine: Softs Grobschnitt: Solar Music Galleon: The Sea PF: Dark Side Of the Moon Canarios: Ciclos Ludwig van: Symphony No 9 etc etc So here is the idea. We have a host (it could be the boss himself, as easy to manage), to whom we send our requests by PM. He adds them to a list published in the Forums, and plays on a weekly scheduled show (preferrable on RFW) maybe 2 of them, marking them as played in the Forums. No anouncements needed, maybe just a prerecorded introduction, that this "Concept Show" begins.. What do you all think about it? |
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Good idea lotus.:eureka: :thumbsup: Very worthy. It woudn't be the longest running show because I
think you would run out of songs in a month or two. I vote 'yea'. I know I could really enjoy 'Recycle' in it's entirety!:rockband: |
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I agree - great idea. I'll add Existence - Small People, Short Story, Little Crime to the list.
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I like the idea too.
Add to the pile - Nectar - remember the future JT - Thick as a Brick & Passion Play Wakeman - journey to the center of the earth yes - topographic oceans moody blues - days of future past |
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Let me put a spin on the idea. Instead of singling out (favoring) certain albums because they're thematic, what if once a month Wednesday wasn't simply No Request Wednesday, but No Request Album Wednesday. All that would have to be done is for each and every album on AM to have a playlist file (.plu I think), and put those files all in one folder, and then on the given day, SAM grabs from it randomly, with some basic non-repeat programming. We might hear Rush's Power Windows, followed by one of the concept albums here, followed by a double album, like The Wall or Low Level Owl, then a short ep, like American Football's The One with the Tambourine, then Aqualung.
I've tossed this idea out before, and I think it has two advantages. First, it allows all albums to be experienced as the artists intended, each in their own time, sooner or later. Second, there's a little programming up front, but after that there's no weekly programming of a show, requests to keep track of, or personal requests to delay for a show. My two cents. |
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Nah, I just don't have time anymore. It was fun while it lasted. Of course, it would get some King's X on the Moon... :rockband: |
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Yeah, that's my point. It wouldn't consider concept albums "special." An album is an album. The Wall and Meddle would be treated equally.
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OK, so I'm thinking that I like this idea - and I'm thinking that we will first do the concept album as Lotus suggested, and if the programming is manageable for Spaz's suggestion, then once we are running low on concept ideas we can do the "random" function. It will be up to Vax to determine whether it is "manageable" since he is the one who will program it :D
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If this is to be weekly, then there are 52 Wednesday per year. Concept albums are abundant in the progressive genre, so I don't think we'd run out of choices quickly. Add: Marillion's: Misplaced Childhood, Brave, Afraid of Sunlight, and Marbles to the growing list. Pink Floyd's catalog is chock full too: DSotM, WYWH, Animals and The Wall. There are some 4500 albums in the library. I'm sure if we go through them we'll find ample material. Some of these "concepts" are double album length. Is that going to present me with any special program length issues? Or, do we just pick a time (eg. 15:00 Wednesday) and play the concept album of the week? |
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Let's don't forget the ultimate concept album...The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway! I think this is a great Idea!:thumbsup:
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Let's see if we can all pull together and get this idea to congeal quickly. PS. I didn't forget about TLLDOB. ;) |
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Spaz said "Let me put a spin on the idea. Instead of singling out (favoring) certain albums because they're thematic, what if once a month Wednesday wasn't simply No Request Wednesday, but No Request Album Wednesday."
I think this is a good Idea and curb the bickering about what is and what isn't a concept album. At least we could hear an entire album by an artist regardless of concept or not. I would like to hear, say GG- Power and the Glory album as much as Genesis-the Lamb, so either way would be good to me. The only problem I can foresee is that if someone doesn't like the album of choice, they may not want to sit thru the whole album but the saying goes, you can't please everybody 100% of the time. I really think this is a great Idea, I love hearing entire albums. |
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TSO - Beethoven's Last Night
Mozart - Symphony 40 & 41 :D Mastermind, Rhapsody & Ayreon - any Mussorgsky - Pictures At An Exhibition Triumvirat - Pompeii & Spartacus Uriah Heep - especially Demons & Wizards |
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Regarding the starting time on Wednesday why don't we make a poll? The winning time is where most votes are around, e.g. voter for 2, 3 and 4 pm summing up 15, votes for 3, 4 and 5 pm summing up 12. The first wins and show begins at 3 pm..:) (I hope you understand what I mean) Next question is how do we collect the actual names of the concept albums so that Vax can put them into a PL? I would volunteer to write the together based on a forum thread in a Excel File (Vax would love it) and send the actualized list on a regular basis to Vax. |
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Bickering over what's a concept album, #1: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Not prog, I know, but is it a concept |
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I'm with Spaz and Laudio on the content ; my iTunes is always on Album Shuffle - because that's the way most stuff sounds best. Just pick any album from here -- I'll live with hearing an entire GY!BE :eek: to hear AWATS end-to-end... :)
I'm with Vax on the delivery ; play one (or more) at some time on RFW. If it's any album then we'd only need to keep track in some way... to avoid premature repetition. |
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Well, I have somehow problems with the idea that SAM picks randomly any album and let it play, as I would like to hear most of the (so called) concept albums first. Why don't we do it 2 steps: Let us collect the information from all Moonies about concept albums which are on the Moon , make a PL out of it and let pick SAM (or whoever) from that list to play any album just once (if possible). After the list is played, which came out from the info from all Moonies, we will have a "SAM Album Show" on RFW, letting SAM pick from all albums randomly, trying to avoid too many repeats.. What do you think? |
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I think this is a most wonderful idea.
The only recommendation for an album I will suggest is Nektar's "Journey To The Center Of The Eye", there is nothing like sitting in a dark room with the headphones on listening to this. Prog On Moonies :rockband: Spewie |
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Pick one from the list and one at random each week. ... with the current count of albums on the moon - it will take nearly 47 years to play them all at that rate.... I see an approximately endless argument (akin to the "what is prog") about "what is a concept album" ;) |
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Okay, I've been wanting to do something of a show. How would this sound to y'all.
I'd like to host what I'd like to call "The Listener's Corner." This would be a 90-120 minute show that could feature playing the "concept album" and a 60 minute set from our listeners (much like those put together for the 10th Anniversary show). This would allow listeners to express their interests and tastes via a small show without having to do the work, both on the album side, as well as single tracks. I may, from time to time, take that time to play an album and set list of my own choosing, as well. I like the idea of a "random album" played on NRW, and this would not preclude or substitute for that notion. I think that's fine as it stands. My show would be to monitor and manage the choices of 'concept albums.' Yes, I'm volunteering to be the scapegoat. (O' lord, what am I getting myself into) :eek: Anyway, what do you think? |
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Perhaps I'll do 'real time' shows once I've honed my craft. :thumbsup: I was thinking more along the lines of people sending me lists of songs from which to pull a playlist. So, come on folks, let's jump on the bandwagon. :dogpile: |
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Alright - this show is now a reality. A concept album is being featured as the opening act of "Corner of the Mooniverse."
Earlier in this thread a number of albums were named as potential concept albums. I will re-enumerate the sugestions again here and I would like you to add more suggestions. Here's what we started with: Nektar's - Journey To The Center Of The Eye, The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Trans Siberian Orch - Beethoven's Last Night Mozart - Symphony 40 & 41 :D Mastermind - Rhapsody Ayreon - any Mussorgsky - Pictures At An Exhibition (any version) Triumvirat - Pompeii & Spartacus Uriah Heep - Demons & Wizards GG- Power and the Glory Genesis - Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Marillion's: Misplaced Childhood, Brave, Afraid of Sunlight, and Marbles Pink Floyd's: Darkside OTM, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall. Nectar - Remember the Future, and Recycle JT - Thick as a Brick & Passion Play Wakeman - journey to the center of the earth, Merlin, 6 Wives of Henry VIII Yes - Topographic Oceans Moody Blues - Days of Future Past Soft Machine: Softs Grobschnitt: Solar Music Galleon: The Sea Canarios: Ciclos Ludwig van: Symphony No 9 Existence - Small People, Short Story, Little Crime I know there are many more out there. Let's just keep this going to make a more complete list (Jim - feel free to edit and deny as we go along). Dale |
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OHD,
To add to your list of concept albums: Neal Morse, ? Neal Morse, Sola Scriptura Neal Morse, Testimony (double disc) Neal Morse, One Thanks! Regards from Texas, Ted |
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Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Jethro tull - A Passion Play Hawkwind - Space Ritual Alive The Who - Tommy The Who - Quadrophenia |
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Conceptually speaking...there are also albums that have songs that run together on CD, but are broken into separate tracks. If the tracks were zipped together, the ends of the songs wouldn't be so rudely interupted. A couple of examples: Ambrosia's Somewhere I've never Travelled, Queen's Queen 2, The Flower Kings Flower Power. (ok, that was three examples)
So, if the album-play RFW doesn't work out, perhaps some sections of albums could at least be pieced together properly for regular play. One example of where this has already been done in the library is the pairing of IKEA by Night with Astral Dog. It is another Flower Kings deal that just makes sense when played together. Even IF the album-play deal works out, we should start compiling a list of tunes that have rude cutoffs, and get the two or three per album that exhibit this phenemenon zipped together for regular play. My 3 cents |
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With the enormous tastes that are in the radio maybe could be impossible to do, but i think that the idea of lotus had to be respected and are positive . Why not? Take your time and discover great art composiciones that can't taste in pieces. The difficult are in the work of Vax a data base, are complicated imho, but just started and the things can gettin better. Lets go and do it.
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So, I say, go for it. But I would still like ideas from people on "concept" album titles for my show. So give some suggestions. If further discussion of a separate album show is warrented, please create a separate thread to do so. (that's for everyone's benefit, Ramon, not a personal suggestion). I'd like to keep this thread for the concept albums only. Thanks. :-V |
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Original ideas are discussed and somtime the outcome is something really positive, like OHD's new show "Corner of the Mooniverse", which joines together 2 ideas..Concept Album to be played and an individual Moonie show, in which everybody can be the director.
I would have preferred that this particular show played on RFW in order to interrupt SAM's sometimes "strange" taste.. :) ; but anyhow, I very welcome OHD's show and cannot wait to hear the second on Sept. 21, 2009. |
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Crucible – Tall Tales
ELP – Pictures at an Exhibition The Flower Kings – Flower Power (disc 1) Genesis – The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Steve Hackett – Voyage of the Acolyte Jean-Michel Jarre – Oxygene The Moody Blues – Seventh Sojourn Pink Floyd – Wish You Were Here, Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, The Wall. The Final Cut Queen – Queen 2 Roine Stolt – Hydrophonia, Wall Street Voodoo Isao Tomita – The Planets Rick Wakeman – The Six Wives of Henry The Eighth, Beyond the Planets Roger Waters – Radio K.A.O.S. |
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Elements" CD by Roger Glover Crucible – Tall Tales ELP – Pictures at an Exhibition The Flower Kings – Flower Power (disc 1) Steve Hackett – Voyage of the Acolyte Jean-Michel Jarre – Oxygene The Moody Blues – Seventh Sojourn The Final Cut Queen – Queen 2 Roine Stolt – Hydrophonia, Wall Street Voodoo Isao Tomita – The Planets Rick Wakeman – The Six Wives of Henry The Eighth, Beyond the Planets Roger Waters – Radio K.A.O.S. Hawkwind - Space Ritual Alive The Who - Tommy The Who - Quadrophenia Neal Morse, ? Neal Morse, Sola Scriptura Neal Morse, Testimony (double disc) Neal Morse, One KEEP 'EM COMING. :dogpile: The more the merrier. Thanks. |
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I am all for the above ideas in any form they may take. Concept albums would be great to hear. I would like to hear any album in its entirety (yes, even GYBE!), so a random album play is good. Also, there are plenty of albums that have long suites that I think are great to hear as suites. (My apologies if I'm adding undue complications for those who have to do the work!)
Examples: Clepsydra - Alone (especially the first thirty minutes or so) Alan Parsons - Tales of Mystery and Imagination (especially Usher) Ten Jinn - As on a Darkling Plain (in part) Arena - Crying for Help (song in eight parts spread over two albums) |
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There was a shout box discussion of other albums to include - Please include them here to remind me.
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Gentle Giant - Three Friends
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Trace - Birds
T.D. - Rubycon just a couple I thought of and trying to remind myself for later. |
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