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Avian 09-08-2003 10:22 AM

I know I'm gonna get killed
 
Okay, I'm sitting through Images and Words on Extended Play today...

...and I know I'm gonna get creamed for this...

...but I just can't help but think that the huge majority of this album is just crap. A total waste of music. It just all sounds the same to me.. every song is on a road to nowhere... The vocals sound like high pitched whining.

Sorry, folks - had to get that on my chest. Dream Theater and I just don't get along.

/flame on

Avian

KeithieW 09-08-2003 12:29 PM

You don't have to like everything....
 
Dream Theater????? Not bad but not great.

I wouldn't run screaming out of the room if someone played them but wouldn't go out of my way to hear them either.

Are we going to get into the fifth or is it sixth DT yes/no discussion?? :D

Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!

progdirjim 09-08-2003 01:47 PM

Re: You don't have to like everything....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Waye
Are we going to get into the fifth or is it sixth DT yes/no discussion?? :D

Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!

there's nothing to discuss - the General Manager says no to DT, the Program Director says no. End of discussion.


POWER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Rick and Roll 09-08-2003 02:03 PM

A dozen HA's
 
that should do it, Jim!

It's funny about vocals. I couldn't do IQ for a long time because of the first (and returning) vocalist. Some people feel that way about Giant (not me, I love that British style).

The "Metropolis" tune is a killer. Try to listen to that one for the hell of it (not to include it on the playlist). There are several other songs throughout their tenure that's probably AM worthy, but it's only one band. Screw it.

Instrumentally, I think they are TOO complicated. The spinoff bands (LTE, for instance) - same way. I have both Transatlantics, but the more I listen, the less I'm interested.

Must be that overblown New York state of mind.

progdirjim 09-08-2003 02:11 PM

Actually, I don't hate DT as much as Avian, but I certainly don't like them enough to add much (if any) of their stuff. I heard part of one song awhile back (I forget which one, an instrumental I think) that I would add, but I don't own it and don't care enough to track it down. But most of their stuff doesn't strike me as prog - some nice instrumental breaks sprinkled into fairly straight ahead metal.

I do actually like LTE, though I don't play it often - have to be in the right mood. Transatlantic is much the same as Spock's Beard to me, in that I can listen to any one song, but after that it all feels pretty much the same. It's basically a pop song feel/structure with instrumental showing off - not a lot of sustained interest.

Rick and Roll 09-08-2003 02:13 PM

Looking for the bait....
 
didn't find it! Well said Jim. A red-letter day - agreed with everything you said (although I own 5 DT CD's).

Extended Play 09-08-2003 02:35 PM

Re: I know I'm gonna get killed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Avian
Okay, I'm sitting through Images and Words on Extended Play today...

...and I know I'm gonna get creamed for this...

...but I just can't help but think that the huge majority of this album is just crap. A total waste of music. It just all sounds the same to me.. every song is on a road to nowhere... The vocals sound like high pitched whining.

Sorry, folks - had to get that on my chest. Dream Theater and I just don't get along.

/flame on

Avian

To quote the great Weird Al, "Everything you know is wrong". Yes, it's very disturbing but true all the same.

Understandably, I don't consider all of I&W to be prog, but someone mentioned it and I thought people would enjoy it. Hell, if Gnosis has punk then I can have hair-metal ballads with my rush-like metal :D

Anyway, like I told both you and Jim some time ago. I'm more than willing to compile the DT songs to go on the station. It's not a huge list, but I think it has just as much of a place here as the classical music.

Actually, I'll post the list here after I compile it. I pity the fool that don't love some Dream Theater.

Tommy

Avian 09-08-2003 03:08 PM

Oh, don't get me wrong - I fully support it being on EP... I don't like it but some folks may. But it will never be a mainstay of our playlist like it is on other prog radio stations.

Thassall!

Avian

Rick and Roll 09-08-2003 03:19 PM

Now there's a good a idea
 
Yeah, post the "EP approved" tunes.

this should be interesting....

Extended Play 09-08-2003 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avian
Oh, don't get me wrong - I fully support it being on EP... I don't like it but some folks may. But it will never be a mainstay of our playlist like it is on other prog radio stations.

Thassall!

Avian

I agree with you again there, but I think overall we're talking about 5-10 songs, hardly the mainstay.

Aural Moon is definitely unique for its playlist in our genre and that makes me very proud to be a part of the team. However, making it an all or none decision is a bit much. Overall, it is still the decision of Jim and Avian, but I'm a very interested and vocal party :p

Tommy

My picks:
Eve
Space Dye Vest
Erotomania
Learning To Live
The Dance of Eternity
Strange Deja Vu
Ytsejam
Metropolis
A Change of Seasons

KeithieW 09-08-2003 03:44 PM

DT
 
Aaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!

Rick and Roll 09-08-2003 04:01 PM

Solid
 
There are are others that I'm sure would classify as "personal favorites", but that's a very good list!!!

progdirjim 09-08-2003 04:06 PM

Dance Of Eternity was the one I heard and liked.

(RnR: There was no bait in my earlier post re: DT, LTE, Transatlantic and Spock's Beard. Just my honest opinions.)

Rick and Roll 09-08-2003 04:09 PM

I know
 
I'm just being a smart-ass.

I'm waiting for "Lines In The Sand" to be forwarded by Yeaspaz, 'cause Doug Pinnick of King's X is on vocals.

More incest!

KeithieW 09-08-2003 04:12 PM

We're all waiting for Yesspaz!!
 
I'm sure he'll have a few comments on this thread :D

Hope he and his leg are doing OK.

Extended Play 09-08-2003 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by progdirjim
Dance Of Eternity was the one I heard and liked.

(RnR: There was no bait in my earlier post re: DT, LTE, Transatlantic and Spock's Beard. Just my honest opinions.)

Although I doubt that it would happen, if you somehow decided to add a few songs, I just might have access to the albums . . . just maybe.

No bait construed, I'm just defensive about my music, because I know that I'm always right. :rolleyes:

And yes, that was sarcasm.

Tommy - god of all that is unholy

Yesspaz 09-09-2003 10:04 AM

Huh?
 
Quote:

I'm waiting for "Lines In The Sand" to be forwarded by Yeaspaz, 'cause Doug Pinnick of King's X is on vocals.
What in the world does this mean?
And it's "LIES in the Sand" :p


Quote:

More incest!
You mean the intermixing of prog people?

Extended Play 09-09-2003 10:07 AM

Re: Huh?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Yesspaz

What in the world does this mean?
And it's "LIES in the Sand" :p

Nope, that makes even less sense.

The Proof!

Yesspaz 09-09-2003 10:11 AM

Oh, I was thinking...
 
Oh, I was thinking of this...

It Does Make Sense, DagNabbit!


And I was even more confused because Ty sings on "Lies in the Sand."

Rick and Roll 09-09-2003 12:34 PM

OK, you all straight now?
 
Let's see - why would I make a big deal about a King's X song that one of their own members sings on? This is a Dream Theater post. And, it's a fairly cool tune.

Oh, and that "Similar or related artists" feature that's shown when you click the link just made me lose my lunch.

Of course I mean the intermixing (is that a word?) of prog people.

PlayingTheFool 09-09-2003 05:52 PM

I was never a big fan of Dream Theater. So I have not reason to bash you.:D

Yesspaz 09-10-2003 09:57 AM

Re: OK, you all straight now?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll


Oh, and that "Similar or related artists" feature that's shown when you click the link just made me lose my lunch.

You talking about "Cycle Sluts from Hell?" I heard that Jim was in that band.

Rick and Roll 09-10-2003 10:07 AM

Dangerous Toys
 
that was the one I saw - with the international hit "Sportin' A Woody"!

I do see that Budgie is in there - now that's a good band!

I'm not up on the Sluts - maybe I should be!

KeithieW 09-10-2003 10:10 AM

Re: Dangerous Toys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll

I do see that Budgie is in there - now that's a good band!

I'm not up on the Sluts - maybe I should be!

Budgie are GREAT!!!!!

As for the sluts I was really into them for a while but it was bad for my health. The anti-biotics and ointment cleared it up though.:D

Rick and Roll 09-10-2003 10:15 AM

Budgie
 
A band that may never make it on AM but it's good old Rock & Roll - "homicidal......suicidal..." A real Canadian treat.

KeithieW 09-10-2003 10:32 AM

A pair of Budgies????
 
Is there another Budgie out there????/

The Budgie that I have heard came from Wales in the early 70s.

Some of their earlier albums (SQUAWK and NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A FRIEND) had album covers by Roger Dean.

They also had a great song/album title "IF I WAS BRITTANIA, I'D WAIVE THE RULES".

Rick and Roll 09-10-2003 10:45 AM

The same
 
I have Squawk (my favorite), the debut, and Bandolier (I think this was the one re-titled Never Turn Your back On A Friend). Bandolier's on album only.

The 4th I have is Brittania, and it does indeed kick ass.

They also have a song called "Breadfan" (from what album I don't know), but Metallica's blistering cover is my one of my favorite Metallica songs.

Are they from Wales? I thought they had a Canadian component. I can't research it right now, but I'll take you word for it.

Roger Dean, huh?

Yesspaz 09-10-2003 10:53 AM

I've never heard them, but my local record store has them in the prog section.

KeithieW 09-10-2003 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yesspaz
I've never heard them, but my local record store has them in the prog section.
Must be the Roger Dean covers. To a lot of people Roger Dean cover=Prog album.

I wouldn't class them as Prog in any shape or form. To me they're "just" a Good ol' Heavy Rock trio with loadsa balls!!

Rick and Roll 09-10-2003 11:11 AM

Wow
 
You have a record store with a prog section!

Yesspaz 09-10-2003 12:45 PM

indie
 
Well, obviously it's an independent record store. They specialize in Indie, Punk, Prog, Electronica, Emo, Hardcore, Metal, and some Jazz. Also sells incense, candles, and "rock" clothes.

Extended Play 09-10-2003 04:56 PM

Re: Wow
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
You have a record store with a prog section!
I'll go one further. My local record store has a progressive metal section. Woo ha!

PlayingTheFool 09-10-2003 05:38 PM

Re: Re: Wow
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Extended Play


I'll go one further. My local record store has a progressive metal section. Woo ha!

:eek:

byzantium 09-10-2003 05:45 PM

The biggest retailer where I live

http://www.skivhugget.se/eng/

has no prog section but in the shelves there are red "Art rock" stickers next to the artist/bandnames. (To inform or to warn people?)

Rick and Roll 09-22-2003 10:59 AM

Back to DT
 
I just listened to "Awake" - it's really good - I think I had to put it down for awhile, that's all.

KeithieW 09-22-2003 11:12 AM

Re: Back to DT
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
I just listened to "Awake" - it's really good - I think I had to put it down for awhile, that's all.
DT - "Live at the Marquee" was just on Extended Play. Pretty good I must say.


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