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Originally posted by Yesspaz
My opinion on some different points:
*Agree with the Squire assessment. The only ones who are in the same league with him are Victor Wooten, Les Claypool, Geddy Lee, and Tony Levin, with Flea, Bootsy Collins, and the guy from GG bringing up the rear.
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Jaco Pastorius (as someone mentioned), Stanley Clarke, Billy Sheehan, Stuart Hamm should be on the list. I would put Squire around 5th - behind Wooten and 4 of my 5 (Hamm just below Squire).
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*Hackett versus Howe? Ha! You gotta be kinding me. Howe is more versatile (classical, folk, rock, country, jazz) and plays more variety of instruments. Even in Hackett's main type of music, the classical/folk vein, Howe is incomparable. Just put Horizons up agains The Clap, Mood for a Day, or Masquerade. Please.
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Howe's pretty amazing, and is probably better than Hackett, but more versatile? No way. (Horizons is certainly not the peak of Hackett's playing - it's famous for being a nice melody, not for a showcase of ability.) Listen to all of Hackett's, what is now, 15 solo albums, then tell me Howe's more versatile.
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*Phil Collins isn't as good as Bill Bruford, agreed. However, I consistantly find myself defending the superb drumming of Alan White. White is just as good if not better than Collins. The fact is, Alan White knows how to play the music very well. But believe me, he's not some "weak link" in Yes. Listen to Tales, Relayer, GftO, Drama, Talk, and songs like Dreamtime. Ask ProgDirJim about Release, Release!
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Alan White is an awfully good drummer, but I still don't think Collins gets the credit he deserves. And I'm not convinced Bruford's better, though I wouldn't argue it either way. And Bozzio is simply amazing - I did see UK with Bozzio, and I'm just now getting my jaw closed!
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*Most underappreciated guitarist? I'd say Hackett gets plenty of props. The most underappreciated guitarists in my opinion are Tony Palacios, Neal Schon, Mike Oldfield, and Peter Banks.
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Yesspaz turned me on to Tony Palacios. I can't say anything about the rest of his work, but the solo album we have on AM is killer. Amazing playing and compositional skills.
Ah well, this is what makes it fun - we can all have different opinions. And there's so many amazing musicians out there - the fun is in new discoveries rather than arguing over who's better than whom...