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![]() Also many branches of science like medicine, genetics, biology, just to name a few, often don't really even use mathematical models to describe the underlying processes that are occuring, things just get too complex for us to deal with mathematically in many-body systems, but it's certainly still valid science to carry on measuring what we see and try to come up with theories about how nature works even if we can't write down an equation that describes what is fundamentally going on. Of course most if not all sciences use math in one way or another to understand the measuring instruments being used or for statistical analysis or whatever, but it's not necessary to use math to discuss the concepts of science. Hence the whole market of books of "science for the layman". However, mathematical models, if possible to derive, are often the most succint way of describing natural phenomena, at least until the theory breaks down. Maxwell's equations are a beautiful example. |
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ROTFLMFAO! Medicine a science!
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It sure is VAX.....at least if experimentation is a vital part of Science. I've taken part in a few medical experiments and now that you all know that I hope the light bulb of understanding has just lit up and you're thinking:
Aha!! Now we understand...... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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If you don't know, don't belittle. It is indeed a science. |
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I'll consider it a science the day medicine treats the cause of disease and not its symptoms.
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This is not religion vs science. Medicine is no religion. It is science. Your opinion of the effectiveness of Medicine is no reflection on it's rightful inclusion as Science. The main reason we know so little is that we keep introducing new issues to the the species. While it is very difficult to keep up, it is undeniable that incredible strides have been made. If I had my heart surgery or my skin cancer treated 15 years ago, I'd be awful shape because of the improvements in the SCIENCE. |
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Watson and Crick decoded the chemisty of DNA but do we really know what the pairings of guanine, adenine, thymine and cytosine mean? No. They're busy splicing genes together in the laboratory now hoping to discover what will be produced like a kid randomly mixing the chemicals from a chemisty set without a clue as to the chemical process. When there's a theory that can predict the outcome, then it will be science. The day the can tell us that the sequence of say, cytosine+adenine+thymine will produce a cat ( ![]() What irks me about medicine is that the don't know anything and for that privilege, they command big money. It's a freakin' gamble just as with the other "practiced" profession. The problem with this gambling is that it is just like Las Vegas... an empire built on the backs of losers -- or in this case, the unfortunates with medical issues. Suffice to say, medicine is medicine... but not science.
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Medicine and Science............
This is definitely one of those tweeners. I agree that medicine treats symptoms NOT causes but the research that goes on to develop those treatments must surely be classed as science. A dictionary definition I found for "SCIENCE" states: science noun 1 (Knowledge obtained from) the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical world, especially by observing, measuring and experimenting, and the development of theories to describe the results of these activities I think that this covers medical research as well.....so you can take it either way. I understand what Martha is going through because I suffer from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and I'm being treated by popping lots of pills that were developed in a laboratory and while the prescribing of said pills isn't scientific the development of them surely is. Just my 2p worth. |
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